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DO NOT BUY ROG Phone 8 Pro

2024-01-18 · 8 min

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  1. Hello, welcome back to a new video. So

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  2. today we have to talk about the brand new

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  3. ROG Phone Pro 8,

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  4. the newest gaming phone from ASUS, or

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  5. ASUS. And I just don't understand why this

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  6. phone exists. So it's a really expensive

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  7. phone, it's like $1,200 US, which is

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  8. insanely expensive for a phone like this.

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  9. And it has some really powerful hardware

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  10. specs like the latest Snapdragon Gen 3,

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  11. which is the most powerful mobile chip out

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  12. right now, and 24GB of RAM. So it's

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  13. extremely extremely capable of playing

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  14. games and being a good handheld gaming

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  15. device. But the biggest problem isn't the

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  16. hardware, it's the software. So obviously

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  17. it's running Android, a mobile operating

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  18. system, and I don't know about you, but

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  19. the Android App Store has absolutely

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  20. rubbish games. They're all just rubbish

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  21. games like Raid Shadow Legends, Clash of

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  22. Clans, Candy Crush, Call of Duty Mobile,

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  23. or it's got like a bunch of old games that

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  24. came out like 10 years ago that have been

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  25. ported to mobile. You won't be able to do

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  26. any good gaming on it. The only big game

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  27. that's kind of modern is, I guess,

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  28. Genshin Impact, which is very popular with

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  29. people who are into Japanese kind of

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  30. JRPGs. And yeah, you can get like Final

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  31. Fantasy 9 or 10. Some really old games are

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  32. on it that used to be on PlayStation 3 or

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  33. 2, but the games on it are just very

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  34. lacking in luster. And as someone who

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  35. likes gaming, I would never want to spend

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  36. so much money on a really cool piece of

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  37. hardware that has such a limited amount of

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  38. games on it. So there's a few big

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  39. differences that the ROG Phone Pro 8 has

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  40. over the previous generation of ROG gaming

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  41. phones. So the ROG Gaming Phone 7 had a

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  42. very in-your-face kind of gamer design

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  43. with a little screen on the back and all

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  44. these different shapes that ASUS really

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  45. like to use, these kind of geometric

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  46. shapes here and there. But the ROG Phone

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  47. 8— but the ROG Gaming Phone Pro 8

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  48. is trying to take a step away from that

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  49. and look more like a normal phone with a

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  50. much more mature and adult kind of theme

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  51. and design. And this is kind of boring.

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  52. If we wanted a normal looking phone, we'd

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  53. just get a Samsung or an iPhone. The whole

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  54. appeal of an ROG gaming phone is that it

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  55. looks like a gaming phone, but now it

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  56. doesn't look like a gaming phone anymore,

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  57. and they've just wasted their time and

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  58. resources on things like a 50-megapixel

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  59. camera. Again, if we wanted a decent

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  60. camera, we'd get an iPhone or Samsung.

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  61. You want to get this phone because you

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  62. want to game, not really take photos. So

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  63. no one really cares that much about the

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  64. photos or the video capability. And then

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  65. the other thing they're boasting about is

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  66. its water proof ability. So before it's

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  67. just splash resistant, but now it's fully

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  68. waterproof, which I don't see the point

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  69. of. Or who cares? When do you ever really

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  70. get your phone completely submerged in

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  71. water? I guess one cool thing about it

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  72. being completely waterproof is if the

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  73. phone gets really hot from all the gaming,

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  74. you can just submerge it into like a tub

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  75. of water and then use a wireless

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  76. controller, and then you could just have

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  77. it in the tub of water being liquid

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  78. cooled. That could be a good way to keep

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  79. the thing cool. So when it comes to mobile

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  80. gaming, there's quite a few big problems.

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  81. Number one, the games on the Android store

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  82. really suck. Well, you can play Stardew

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  83. Valley on your brand new $1,200, 24GB RAM

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  84. gaming phone, or you're gonna play some,

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  85. I don't know, Pokémon Go, like some stupid

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  86. mobile game. All these mobile games suck.

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  87. So if they had good games, like actual

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  88. Steam games on it, like you get on

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  89. Windows, then maybe it would be an

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  90. interesting idea. But then even if it had

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  91. good games on it, there's 2 other

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  92. problems. Number one, there's no buttons.

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  93. You've got a play touchscreen and there's

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  94. like some trigger buttons, but they're not

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  95. actually buttons, they're just like haptic

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  96. feedback capacitive buttons that don't

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  97. actually move. And then you've got the

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  98. cooling problem. So to fix these 2

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  99. problems, number one, you can get like a

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  100. Sony Backbone and add physical controls to

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  101. your phone. So now it's got controllers.

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  102. And then for the cooling problem, you can

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  103. add this ASUS cooling fan onto the back of

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  104. the phone that attaches using a spring

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  105. mechanism. And on that, it's also got some

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  106. back trigger buttons. Okay, so you've you

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  107. fixed the control button problem and you

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  108. fixed the cooling problem, but now you've

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  109. got this big ugly chunky device that

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  110. basically looks like a handheld gaming

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  111. device, like a little Steam Deck or an ROG

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  112. Ally. And it just makes you think, why

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  113. would you spend $1,200 on this

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  114. gimped gaming handheld device which is

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  115. also a phone, when for $500 or $600

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  116. you can get a Steam Deck, an ROG Ally, a

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  117. Legion Go, which is— come on, let's face

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  118. it, those are actual handheld gaming

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  119. devices that destroy the ROG Gaming Phone

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  120. Pro 8 out of the water when it comes to

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  121. any kind of gaming. It just doesn't make

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  122. any sense to me why would you spend

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  123. $1,200, which is more than double the

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  124. price of any of these really capable

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  125. Windows-based handheld devices or the

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  126. Steam Deck, if you're really that into

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  127. mobile gaming. Why don't you just get an

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  128. actual handheld gaming device which will

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  129. cost half the amount has fans built into

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  130. it, has controllers and triggers and

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  131. thumbsticks built into the device as one

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  132. device, has a bigger screen. Most of these

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  133. Steam Deck kind of handheld gaming devices

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  134. have like a 7 or 8-inch screen display

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  135. with OLED graphics, which is going to be

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  136. better than anything this ROG Phone 8 has.

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  137. So I don't understand who's gonna buy

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  138. this. The whole thing is aimed at gamers

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  139. because it's a gaming phone, but if you

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  140. actually are into any kind of gaming that

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  141. isn't, I don't know, Candy Crush, and you

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  142. want to play Steam games and play actual

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  143. computer games like GTA 5, Cyberpunk,

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  144. Witcher, Starfield, Baldur's Gate 3,

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  145. Diablo 4. You can't play those games on

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  146. mobile. You need a proper Windows or Linux

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  147. SteamOS kind of operating system, and to

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  148. be able to get that, you won't be able to

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  149. get it on the phone. Now, if they made a

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  150. phone that ran on SteamOS, or like a Steam

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  151. phone, or a Windows 11 phone, that— it

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  152. would be so cool if Windows just made a

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  153. Windows phone. I mean, they did have a

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  154. Windows phone, but it didn't have proper

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  155. Windows on it. It had like some stupid

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  156. mobile Windows. Why don't they just put a

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  157. full-blown Windows operating system, or at

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  158. least Linux like SteamOS, onto a phone

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  159. that can be a phone, but then when you

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  160. need it to be, you can also download

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  161. actual games onto it? Like, imagine

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  162. Cyberpunk on your phone. And I think the

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  163. hardware for these new phones, like the

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  164. Snapdragon Gen 3, and the amount of RAM

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  165. that phones have nowadays is getting so

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  166. good and so powerful. Why don't they just

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  167. slap like an Intel Ultra Core 7 into a

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  168. phone and give it Windows 11, and then

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  169. you've got a phone that's the form factor

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  170. of a phone but you could play actual PC

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  171. games on it, then that would be a true

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  172. gaming phone. But unfortunately, this ROG

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  173. Gaming Phone series, they're not really

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  174. gaming phones. They're just— they've got

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  175. the hardware of gaming stuff, but they've

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  176. got the stupid OS of a phone, like mobile

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  177. phone, like Android mobile OS, which is

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  178. just not good for gaming. It doesn't have

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  179. any good games on it. So I don't know why

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  180. you spend so much money. I mean, $1,200

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  181. You could buy an actual proper gaming

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  182. laptop for that amount of money with RTX

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  183. 4060 graphics card and actually do some

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  184. proper gaming, and it's still kind of

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  185. light, light and compact and mobile as a

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  186. small compact laptop. So I was kind of

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  187. tempted to buy this because 24GB of RAM

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  188. would make things extra snappy when doing

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  189. multitasking, and it would be cool to have

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  190. just one phone instead of a phone and a

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  191. gaming handheld device. You could just

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  192. shrink that into one device. But I don't

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  193. know what games I would play on Android.

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  194. Like I said before, I'm not really into

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  195. mobile games. I like PC games, and for

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  196. that reason, I wouldn't buy a gaming phone

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  197. or spend so much money on a phone that's

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  198. specifically designed for gaming when it's

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  199. basically just a gimped gaming device. So

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  200. unfortunately, for those reasons, I can't

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  201. recommend the ROG Phone 8 or

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  202. the ROG Phone Pro 8 or whatever they're

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  203. calling it. And all these gimmicky gaming

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  204. phones with the big cooling heater thing

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  205. on the back with the fan. It's just so

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  206. silly. Just get an ROG Ally. It has

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  207. everything you need built into the device,

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  208. like fans, cooling, thumbsticks and

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  209. triggers and buttons, and actual PC

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  210. gaming, and for half the price.

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