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What to do after Level 60+ in Diablo 4 - Helltides Explained

2023-06-21 · 10 min

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  1. Hello, welcome back to a new video. So I

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  2. want to talk about what you should be

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  3. doing after you reach level 60 or maybe

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  4. 65, or you're close to level 70 and you're

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  5. wondering what to do. So you go into the

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  6. map and you'll see I'm in this red area.

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  7. I want to explain what the red area on the

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  8. map means. You'll find in the middle of

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  9. the red area this little red thing here

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  10. called Helltide Rises. Now a Helltide is

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  11. an area where you can farm specific

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  12. materials and that are very useful for

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  13. doing things like replacing the affixes on

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  14. your gear. So for example, go on your

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  15. gear, you see all the little stats. You

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  16. can replace one of the stats called

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  17. affixes, but you'll need a thing called a

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  18. Fragmented Soul, which you'll only find in

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  19. this Helltide area. And also you can get

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  20. these things called Fiend Roses, which are

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  21. also useful for doing other things with

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  22. your gear. And you need to farm these

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  23. materials And there's also chests within

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  24. this area that you can unlock by killing

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  25. stuff and getting the currency. I forgot

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  26. what it's called, something like cinders

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  27. or something, and you collect those to

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  28. unlock the gear in the chests. So as you

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  29. can see, the Helltide actually ends in 29

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  30. minutes, which means we have only 29

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  31. minutes to do some farming, and then there

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  32. won't be another one until an hour later.

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  33. I think it's something like it only lasts

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  34. only spawns every 2 hours and it lasts 1

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  35. hour. So there's gonna be a period of

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  36. time, about 1 hour, when there's no

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  37. Helltides. So when you see a Helltide pop

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  38. up, it would be in your best interest to

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  39. go and do one. And I'll show you what it's

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  40. like. It's not really that interesting,

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  41. it's just like the usual open world, and

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  42. there's this special currency that only

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  43. exists in it. And if you die, you actually

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  44. lose some of your currency. So we go off

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  45. into the open world, find some mobs, and

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  46. see what happens when you fight them.

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  47. You'll get this thing called— what are

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  48. they called? They keep vanishing before I

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  49. Aberrant Cinder. I don't know what the

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  50. word aberrant means. Been speaking English

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  51. my entire life, it's my native tongue,

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  52. but I have never seen the word aberrant

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  53. before. But But anyway, you collect those

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  54. Aberrant Cinders and then you just do a

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  55. lot of grinding, and then you'll find a

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  56. chest just lying around, and it's like

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  57. made out of bones or something. And you

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  58. sometimes— you get good items out of it,

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  59. get some ancestral epics which are very

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  60. nice, and then you

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  61. can get some good gear. So if you go into

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  62. the map, you can easily find where these

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  63. chests are. You can see Tortured Gift of

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  64. Protection. Tortured Gift of Protection.

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  65. And yeah, so you just pin it and then we

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  66. can ride over to it. So I now have 86,

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  67. um, cinders— Aberrant Cinders.

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  68. Just kill everything around it. Hopefully

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  69. you don't die, because if you die you'll

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  70. lose some of your cinder things. Oh my

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  71. God, I'm gonna die! Oh, that was close.

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  72. This big guy nearly one-shot me. Oh Jesus,

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  73. that would have been annoying. Let's clear

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  74. up the rest.

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  75. And there you can see, for 75 cinders— oh,

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  76. watch out,

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  77. trying to interrupt me whilst I make my

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  78. video. Not very nice, is it?

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  79. For 75 tinders— I mean cinders— we can get

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  80. Tortured Gift of Helms. See what we get

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  81. from this. Um, oh,

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  82. we got one Sacred Helmet. Wow, that was—

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  83. oh, Forgotten Souls. Forgotten Souls also

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  84. very useful for doing something that I

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  85. forgot now. Oh yeah, Forgotten Souls are

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  86. very important for upgrading your weapons

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  87. and gear to the max level. So for the 5th

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  88. weapon upgrade, you would need Forgotten

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  89. Souls, which you can only get in Helltide.

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  90. So the reason why you need to do Helltides

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  91. is because, well, I don't know about you,

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  92. but I finished the level 70 capstone

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  93. dungeon at level 64. And at level 64,

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  94. I entered World Tier 4. And as soon as I

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  95. entered World Tier 4 at level 64, I was

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  96. just completely getting destroyed by

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  97. everything. And I tried doing Nightmare

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  98. Dungeons and I was just getting one-shot.

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  99. So I thought, okay, better not try any

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  100. more Nightmare Dungeons because it's just

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  101. a waste of time, waste of my gear getting

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  102. broken all the time. So what you want to

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  103. do is the Helltides to get these upgrades

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  104. in your gear. As soon as you enter World

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  105. Tier 4, you're going to go from using

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  106. sacred items to ancestral items,

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  107. and ancestral items are just such a

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  108. massive step up from sacred items. And as

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  109. soon as you start fitting out your gear

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  110. with some ancestral stuff, you'll realize

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  111. that you will get a big improvement and

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  112. you'll be able to actually survive. I

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  113. managed to do a tier 21 and 22 Nightmare

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  114. Dungeon after I kitted myself out in some

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  115. Ancestrals. Well, what's this, some kind

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  116. of mini boss?

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  117. And it really is a big step up from

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  118. having Sacreds. I just want to see what

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  119. this boss is going to drop.

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  120. He's gonna drop nothing.

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  121. Are you— he's only gonna drop 500 gold.

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  122. Okay, well, I got some Grim Favors. Yeah,

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  123. so I really recommend you don't do

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  124. Nightmare Dungeons once you've just

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  125. entered Tier World 4 because you'll

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  126. probably get destroyed. You're gonna need

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  127. to get ancestrals and improve your gear by

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  128. doing the Helltides, collecting the

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  129. weapons and armor caches from those

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  130. forbidden What are they called?

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  131. Um, Tortured Gift of Protections. Yeah,

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  132. they sometimes drop good stuff and

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  133. sometimes they just drop rubbish. It's

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  134. kind of random. And then once you've

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  135. gotten yourself some nice ancestrals and

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  136. you've leveled up a bit in World Tier 4,

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  137. then I think you'll be ready to do some

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  138. more Nightmare Dungeons. Go back to

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  139. Nightmare Dungeons, and you should, you

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  140. should be doing the Tier 20 to 25 until

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  141. you get much more powerful. I'm currently

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  142. struggling to do 24s and 25s. I can do 21s

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  143. and 22s without too much problems, but I

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  144. really need to upgrade my gear more,

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  145. which is what I'm doing now by grinding

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  146. the Helltides. So we nearly got another

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  147. 75. We've only got 30 minutes left until

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  148. the Helltide closes, so I want to go over

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  149. to the next protected place. Where is it?

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  150. Protected Gift of Protection and

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  151. see if we get anything good in that chest.

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  152. Okay, we have a Tortured Gift of Helms.

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  153. Let's see anything good.

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  154. Oh, a Sacred Helm. So any good though?

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  155. Um, uh, it's okay, I guess. Got some max

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  156. life, total armor.

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  157. Also, in addition to doing the Helltides,

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  158. you could carry on doing the Grim Favors

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  159. for the Tree of Whispers and do these

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  160. dungeons because you still get some nice

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  161. stuff out of the little loot box. And

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  162. sometimes you get an epic sacred loot box

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  163. which is full of epics, which will also

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  164. help you gear up. So then you can get back

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  165. into doing the Nightmare Ancestral Tier

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  166. dungeons, which you can see I have a lot

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  167. of the sigils like Ancestral Nightmare

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  168. Sigil Tier 24 Tier 25, but I still feel

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  169. like I'm not strong enough. They also— the

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  170. other problem with doing the Ancestral

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  171. Nightmare dungeons is you only get a

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  172. maximum of 4 revives, 4 lives, instead of

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  173. the 12 revives which you'll get in the

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  174. Sacred Nightmares. So 4 lives— well, it's

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  175. actually 5 because it says 4, but then

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  176. when you have only 0 left, you still have

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  177. 1 left. So you have like 5 lives left,

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  178. and sometimes I lag And I die.

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  179. So it's kind of frustrating because 5

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  180. lives doesn't last very long when you

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  181. include the facts that you could

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  182. potentially easily get 1 or 2 shots. You

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  183. have to be very, very careful. Doing the

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  184. Ancestral Nightmares can be very tense and

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  185. frustrating because if you die from

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  186. something that wasn't really your fault,

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  187. then you've lost a life and you only have

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  188. 5. And then once you lose 5, you're kicked

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  189. out of the dungeon for good. Oh look,

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  190. some kind of mini boss here and other

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  191. players. Helltides can be pretty fun

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  192. because they're so chaotic. There's so

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  193. many just huge mobs of enemies waiting

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  194. around, these little mini boss challenges,

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  195. and lots of other players. So it is like a

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  196. very action-packed version of the open

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  197. world. The open world can feel pretty dull

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  198. and lifeless a lot of the time, but the

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  199. Helltides really bring the open world to

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  200. life, I think, and they make the open

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  201. world much more interesting. And just look

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  202. at this, it's like complete war going on

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  203. here, and the amount of Cinder things

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  204. we'll get will probably be pretty good.

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  205. It's good we have help because I think I'd

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  206. be getting destroyed otherwise.

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  207. So just take these down, and this is— I

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  208. think this is what you're going to be

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  209. doing most of the time after level 60 or

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  210. 65. Once you just got into World Tier 4,

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  211. you're gonna need to be gearing up because

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  212. you're gonna be pretty weak if you just

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  213. came from World Tier 3. And all we've got

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  214. are sacreds and legendary sacreds.

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  215. Wow, look at all these cinders, there's

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  216. loads. I've almost got enough for the

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  217. other protected Gift of Protection.

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  218. Okay, box number 3, let's see if we have

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  219. some Forgotten Souls because I would like

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  220. to upgrade my weapons. We have Sacred

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  221. Pants, Elixirs, and Fiend Roses. Okay,

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  222. Fiend Roses are quite useful as well for,

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  223. uh, forgot actually, I think it's for also

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  224. upgrading.

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