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DO NOT BUY Forza Motorsport - Very Disappointing

2023-10-10 · 8 min

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  1. Hello, welcome back to a new video. So

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  2. recently I've been playing the brand new

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  3. Forza Motorsport, and as an avid fan of

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  4. Forza games and racing games in general,

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  5. I knew I just had to play this game.

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  6. Unfortunately, so far it's been kind of

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  7. bland, boring, and uninspired. And

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  8. compared to the previous Forza game,

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  9. Forza Horizon 5, this addition to the

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  10. Forza series just comes across as kind of

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  11. lacking in luster. So they've taken a very

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  12. different approach in this game compared

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  13. to the previous Forza game. In Forza

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  14. Horizon 5, it was like an open-world game

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  15. with a story and missions, and your

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  16. character kind of had a personality and a

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  17. goal. In Forza Horizon 5, you really felt

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  18. like you were following in the footsteps

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  19. of this ambitious, energetic person who

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  20. wants to make his name in the racing

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  21. scene, and it just felt more vibrant and

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  22. colorful as a game. Compared to that,

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  23. they've kind of stripped down the bare

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  24. essentials of the racing game in Forza

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  25. Motorsport to just the bare-bones

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  26. mechanics of racing and improving your

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  27. car. And they've gotten rid of all of the

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  28. other fluff. Now, I don't know if you

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  29. would like that more and you just want the

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  30. game to focus on the racing and the

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  31. driving, but I find it kind of dull. So

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  32. after you get through all of the tedious

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  33. tutorials and cutscenes, which you can't

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  34. really skip, and all the hand-holding,

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  35. which you can't skip either, it took hours

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  36. to eventually get into the main meat of

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  37. the game. It's really frustrating. You get

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  38. to start doing races, and when you win a

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  39. race, you earn money and points. And using

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  40. these points and money, you can use it to

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  41. upgrade your car. And the fine-tuning and

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  42. the customization of the car's parts and

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  43. engines, braking, suspension, all that

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  44. kind of stuff, is very intricate and very

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  45. in-depth. But if you don't really know

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  46. much about cars and you don't really care

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  47. about fine-tuning your car, you'll find

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  48. that this stuff kind of just goes straight

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  49. over your head and it's just very boring.

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  50. For example, you can tweak the braking and

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  51. the suspension to improve the car by like

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  52. 0.1%, and you don't even notice it when

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  53. you're racing the car. It basically feels

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  54. exactly as if nothing has changed. The

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  55. gameplay is extremely basic. You've got

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  56. this on-screen line, like a load of arrows

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  57. in a line, which helps guide you through

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  58. corners in the most efficient way. And it

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  59. also changes color from blue to yellow to

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  60. red depending on how fast you're going.

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  61. So if you're going too fast, it'll be red,

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  62. and then if you start braking, it'll start

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  63. going green to tell you that you are now

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  64. traveling at the right speed to take the

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  65. corner. So basically all you have to do is

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  66. keep your eye on this line and then brake

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  67. when it's red and accelerate when it

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  68. starts to go green, so you're braking at

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  69. the right time and accelerating at the

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  70. right time. It just really feels like

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  71. you're being handheld throughout the game,

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  72. and the game can be entirely played with

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  73. just 3 buttons. Well, actually 4— WASD.

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  74. You don't even need your right hand to be

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  75. able to play this game. I just sit here

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  76. with my left hand on WASD, but I guess a

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  77. lot of people will be using controllers or

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  78. steering wheels. But as someone who only

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  79. has a keyboard and mouse, you don't really

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  80. have much to do with your hands. You just

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  81. press W to go forwards, you press S to go

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  82. backwards, and And you press A and D to go

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  83. left and right. There's no handbrake

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  84. turning or handbrake drifting or that kind

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  85. of stuff. There's not really much for you

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  86. to do. You just basically hold down W and

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  87. then press S when you need to slow down.

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  88. It feels very basic. I mean, Mario Kart 8

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  89. had more things to do, and that's just

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  90. like a kids arcade racer game. The

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  91. optimization of the game is also really

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  92. bad. I'm running an RTX 3060 with an Intel

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  93. i7 10th generation, which is a pretty good

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  94. computer. But this game just really

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  95. struggles to run at any good frame rates.

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  96. I had to turn all the graphics down to

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  97. super low and put DLSS on ultra

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  98. performance to be able to get the game to

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  99. play somewhat smoothly. But even then,

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  100. the game's not entirely smooth and it's

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  101. kind of laggy and stuttery. And I just

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  102. don't understand why, because the game is

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  103. not exactly like this massive sprawling

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  104. open world. It's just like small

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  105. racetracks with a couple cars on it with

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  106. some scenery. I don't know why this is

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  107. making my system struggle. But it is, and

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  108. it's really frustrating. The game's also

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  109. really frustrating because before you

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  110. start an actual race, it forces you to do

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  111. like a practice lap, and you have to do

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  112. like 2 or 3 practice laps around the

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  113. entire track before you can actually do

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  114. the actual race, which is really annoying.

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  115. I don't want to do practice lap, but it

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  116. makes you do it, and it takes ages to

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  117. finish the practice lap. I just want to do

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  118. the main race and get my money and have

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  119. like a proper competition, not just racing

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  120. around the track by myself for no reason

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  121. apart from to get experience and to learn

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  122. how the track works. But I don't really

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  123. want to learn how the track works. I just

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  124. want to jump in and then see what it's

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  125. like. The cars also handle really badly.

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  126. I don't know why. They, they seem to

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  127. struggle to turn very well when they're

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  128. going very fast. It's not like GTA or

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  129. Cyberpunk where you can do like a quick

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  130. turn or do like a handbrake turn and skid

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  131. around all over the place and you feel

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  132. really maneuverable. The cars in this game

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  133. feel like they're massive blocks of ice

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  134. sliding around on an ice rink or a lake of

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  135. ice, and the turning and the mobility of

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  136. the cars in this game feels really weird.

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  137. It's like you're not really going very

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  138. fast, maybe 30-40 miles per hour, and then

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  139. you're trying to do a turn, but the car

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  140. just won't turn at all until you really

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  141. hit the brakes hard and slow right down

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  142. until it feels like you're barely moving

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  143. at all. It just makes the game feel not

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  144. very responsive, kind of sluggish, and the

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  145. cars don't look very good. There's no real

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  146. on-screen real-time damage to the cars.

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  147. The cars do take damage, like if you hit

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  148. things, you do have like steering or

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  149. handling problems because they get

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  150. damaged, but you don't see any of the

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  151. damage on the body of the car. Like, you

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  152. can crash into the other cars on the track

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  153. and nothing happens. There's no bonnets

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  154. flying off or real-time damage. And older

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  155. games from like 2010 or '15 have real-time

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  156. damage where parts of the body of the car

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  157. fly off or get damaged and bent. And I

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  158. don't see why this game can't have that.

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  159. It just makes it seem kind of unrealistic.

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  160. The realism and the immersion kind of gets

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  161. ruined when there's no such thing as

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  162. on-screen real-time damage. So

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  163. unfortunately, I can't really recommend

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  164. this game, and I have to give it 6.2 out

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