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Onision - DELETED From Twitch!

2020-01-15 · 7 min

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  1. Well, well, well, isn't it a great victory

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  2. for the internet today? We finally did it,

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  3. boys and girls. Onision has been banned

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  4. from Twitch as well. Not only has he been

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  5. banned from Patreon, but it's recently

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  6. become known that he's also been banned

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  7. from the streaming platform known as

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  8. Twitch. It seems as though the walls are

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  9. closing in and days are getting dark for

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  10. poor old James Gregory, or whatever his

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  11. name is these days. So if you go onto

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  12. Twitter and look up this Twitter account

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  13. called Streamer Bans, it seems to be some

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  14. kind of automated bot that automatically

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  15. announces when someone gets banned on

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  16. Twitch. And if you go onto Twitch and you

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  17. try to look up Onision's channel, you'll

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  18. find that it's no longer there. I would

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  19. say this is a great victory for the

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  20. internet because people have been trying

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  21. to get Onision off of the internet since,

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  22. I don't know, for years and years now.

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  23. There's been petitions trying to remove

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  24. him because he's a dangerous personality.

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  25. You know, it always seemed kind of like he

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  26. was untouchable. It seemed like he could

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  27. do anything he wanted to, didn't matter

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  28. how bad he behaved and treated other

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  29. people. He was just completely

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  30. untouchable, and these platforms wouldn't

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  31. take any notice or remove him or take down

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  32. his channels. But I think those days are

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  33. coming to an end, especially with Chris

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  34. Hansen blowing this whole case up

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  35. to so many new eyes, including myself. I,

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  36. to be honest, wasn't really interested in

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  37. this whole Onision stuff. I knew of him,

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  38. but I never really cared about any of the

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  39. drama that followed him. And I am getting

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  40. quite into the livestreams with Chris

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  41. Hansen. Wow, 19,000 people currently

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  42. watching. I think Chris Hansen is doing a

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  43. really good job at bringing these

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  44. incidents and this person and all of the

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  45. things that are happening to a wider

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  46. audience. And, and I really think these

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  47. social media platforms are going to find

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  48. it very difficult to turn a blind eye when

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  49. there's so much public outrage going on In

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  50. regards to Onision. I guess the ultimate

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  51. goal would be to eventually get him taken

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  52. off of YouTube as well. We haven't gotten

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  53. that far yet, but I think getting him off

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  54. Patreon and Twitch has been an amazing

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  55. first and second step. It would be really

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  56. interesting to find out if YouTube is

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  57. going to take action or if they're going

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  58. to just pretend this isn't happening,

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  59. because I guess technically Onision hasn't

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  60. done anything to get himself banned,

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  61. otherwise he would have strikes by now.

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  62. But when you've been doing YouTube for

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  63. such a long time, you start to learn what

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  64. you can and cannot do, and it starts to

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  65. become pretty easy to sidestep getting

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  66. strikes. You just don't do anything that

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  67. breaks YouTube guidelines, and as long as

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  68. you don't break their guidelines, you are

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  69. pretty much guaranteed not to get taken

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  70. off of the website. All of it has just

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  71. been building up and building up and

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  72. escalating and escalating. I think we're

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  73. finally reaching the breaking point. The

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  74. breaking point will come It's just going

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  75. to be a matter of time. It's not going to

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  76. be a matter of if, it's a matter of when

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  77. and how hard this breaks and all comes

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  78. crashing down on top of Onision. So to

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  79. celebrate Onision getting removed off

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  80. Twitch, let's read some of the replies and

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  81. comments on the StreamBands Twitter

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  82. account. So MurderBit says, not only is—

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  83. was he a partner, but with only 3K

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  84. followers, that means someone had to

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  85. authorize him despite not having a large

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  86. enough viewership. Which means that person

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  87. had to know exactly who he is to make an

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  88. exception. So basically this means that

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  89. someone at Twitch did review Onision's

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  90. account when he initially made it and had

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  91. to decide whether to let him on the

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  92. platform or not in the first place, which

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  93. I guess in hindsight was a big mistake.

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  94. After everything that's been happening, I

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  95. don't really think it comes too much of a

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  96. surprise that Twitch decided to remove him

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  97. from their platform. I mean, would you

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  98. really want someone like Onision to be

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  99. representing your platform? If they're

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  100. associated with him and they refuse to

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  101. take him down, then That just makes Twitch

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  102. look bad. It makes people think, hey

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  103. Twitch, why aren't you taking this person

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  104. off of your platform when he's done all of

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  105. these terrible things? It kind of makes

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  106. you look like you're supporting him or you

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  107. don't really mind that he's done these

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  108. things. And I suppose Twitch does mind if

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  109. people think that they are supporting

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  110. someone who has— who has basically— he has

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  111. the spotlight of the public eye looking

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  112. down on him, hoping that he gets punished

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  113. and hoping that judgment gets served. Now

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  114. here's the thing with Twitch. Once you've

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  115. gotten banned off of Twitch, it's really,

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  116. really difficult to get back on. It's not

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  117. the same as YouTube. On YouTube, even if

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  118. you get banned, although you're not

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  119. supposed to, it's against the guidelines

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  120. to make a new account, there's nothing

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  121. really stopping you from making a new

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  122. account. You can do lots of things to hide

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  123. the fact that it's you behind the account.

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  124. You can just stop showing your face, pay

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  125. someone to voice over your videos instead

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  126. of voicing them yourself. There have been

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  127. several pretty big YouTubers who have been

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  128. banned off of YouTube, but they are still

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  129. on YouTube because they just made a new

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  130. channel and somehow got around the

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  131. guidelines and managed to stay on YouTube.

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  132. Keemstar is one example. But Twitch is

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  133. kind of different in many ways. It's a lot

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  134. stricter on Twitch. Once you've gotten

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  135. banned from Twitch, if you try and make a

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  136. new Twitch account, you need to get your

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  137. new account verified. And if you've been

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  138. added to the ban list and they review your

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  139. accounts, they're not going to authorize

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  140. it and they'll just ban you again. This is

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  141. one of the reasons why Ice Poseidon was

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  142. never able to get back onto Twitch after

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  143. he got banned. And the other thing about

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  144. Twitch is, if you're banned on Twitch and

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  145. you even appear on someone else's Twitch

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  146. account or on someone else's Twitch

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  147. stream, then that person also gets banned.

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  148. So all of Ice Poseidon's friends on Twitch

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  149. refused to stream with him anymore out of

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  150. fear that they'll also get banned just for

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  151. streaming with him. It's— it's pretty

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  152. strict on Twitch, and it's safe to say

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  153. that I don't think Onision would ever be

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  154. streaming on Twitch ever again. Now with

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  155. Onision being banned from all of these

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  156. really big large platforms, he's basically

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  157. playing this game of hopping around to

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  158. different platforms trying to avoid the

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  159. ban hammer. And I'm not sure how long he's

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  160. going to be able to last doing that.

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  161. Eventually he's going to run out of

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  162. platforms. Eventually there's going to be

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  163. no more platforms for him to turn to and

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  164. he's going to be banned off of everything.

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  165. I think the only option he really has is

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  166. to make his own website and and try and

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  167. get his remaining dwindling fans and

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  168. viewers to go and watch him over there.

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  169. But yeah, things are looking really bleak

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  170. for him. I'm not trying to sound like I'm

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  171. defending him, but I do kind of feel a

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  172. little bit of empathy for him, even though

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  173. he probably deserves all of this. Because

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  174. at the end of the day, he still has kids

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  175. to provide for, and the kids are

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  176. completely innocent. They don't deserve to

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  177. not be provided for just because their

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  178. father is completely mentally ill and

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  179. deranged and getting banned off of all of

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  180. the platforms that he usually uses

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  181. to make his income on.

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