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Why I HATE Dividend investing

2021-02-07 · 13 min

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  1. Hello, welcome back to a new investing

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  2. video. Today I thought I'd talk about why

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  3. I don't like dividend investing and why

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  4. I don't think it's a good idea. So first

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  5. of all, we need to identify what exactly

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  6. is dividend investing. So there's

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  7. lots of different stocks on the stock

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  8. market. You've got the massive companies

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  9. like Apple and Microsoft and Walmart

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  10. and Amazon. And then out of these massive

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  11. companies, some of them pay you for

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  12. holding their shares. The biggest

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  13. dividend-paying companies would be usually

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  14. oil companies for some reason. I don't

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  15. know why, but that's just what it's like.

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  16. So if you have, for example, one share of

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  17. ExxonMobil— mobile, is it mobile or

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  18. mobile? I don't know, spelt weird, isn't

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  19. it? We'll just call it mobile because it's

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  20. easy to say. So if you have one share of

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  21. ExxonMobil, I think they give

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  22. you 85 cents,

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  23. something like that. No, I think it's a

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  24. bit less, maybe 50, between 50 and 70

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  25. cents. You have to look it up. I can't

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  26. remember this all off the top of my head.

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  27. I'm not bloody Einstein. So they'll give

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  28. you about 50 cents per share. So,

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  29. so what happens is they'll pay you this 50

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  30. or 60 cents 4 times a year, every quarter

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  31. after they release earnings. And you'll

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  32. get this 4 times a year as long as you

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  33. hold on to the shares. So if you have like

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  34. 1,000 shares, they're going to give you

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  35. quite a nice amount of dividend money 4

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  36. times a year. Now, this sounds great. You

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  37. know, all you have to do is buy the share

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  38. and then wait for the dividends. But this

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  39. is a really boring way of investing.

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  40. Number one, the dividend companies aren't

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  41. going to grow much. They're already

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  42. massive companies that have already

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  43. peaked. They're not really going to grow

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  44. much. They're not going to 2x or 10x in

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  45. the short term. New term, far-term future.

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  46. So don't expect to buy like 1,000 shares

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  47. of EPD or Exxon or Chevron and then expect

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  48. the share value to go up by much. At best,

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  49. you're going to hope that the share value

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  50. is stable and doesn't really fluctuate too

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  51. much. The good thing about a dividend

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  52. stock is when the market corrects itself

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  53. or crashes, you're not really going to see

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  54. much of a massive crash or difference in

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  55. the share value of these huge companies

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  56. because they're just so stable. So you get

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  57. some companies like BGS, BG Frozen Foods,

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  58. and you look at the graph and it looks

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  59. like it's going up and down. But when you

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  60. put your finger over the bar chart,

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  61. you'll notice that it's only going up and

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  62. down by, I don't know, 10 or 20 cents.

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  63. It's really not a huge amount. You look at

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  64. the bottom of BGS and it was like 27.50,

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  65. and compared to now it's like 27.80. It's

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  66. hardly moved at all because it's very

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  67. stable. It's a stable dividend company.

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  68. That's good. But the bad thing is you need

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  69. huge amounts of money. Don't just put in

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  70. like £1,000 or £5,000 or £10,000 and

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  71. expect to get any more than a couple

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  72. hundred every time it pays out dividends.

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  73. You need to put in tens of thousands,

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  74. hundreds of thousands to even make

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  75. $500 a month. You have to put in insanely

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  76. huge amounts of money just to make a

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  77. couple hundred a month in dividends. And

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  78. if you've got huge amounts of money, like

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  79. you're some kind of millionaire, then

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  80. that's fine because you don't know what

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  81. else to do with your money and you might

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  82. as well just put it into a safe and stable

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  83. dividend company. But if you're like me

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  84. and you're not insanely rich and you don't

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  85. have hundreds of thousands, then if you're

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  86. relying on dividends as your dividend

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  87. strategy you are going to make money, but

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  88. you're just going to make it really,

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  89. really slowly compared to buying

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  90. into growth stocks like BNGO or Tattooed

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  91. Chef, who are gonna 2x or 5x or 10x in the

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  92. short-term, near-term future. The other

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  93. problem with dividend stocks is that you

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  94. don't know 100% for sure that they're

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  95. going to pay out the dividend. If the

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  96. company's fine doing business as usual,

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  97. then you probably don't have anything to

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  98. worry about. But in a crash or an economic

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  99. crisis like last year when you know what

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  100. was shutting down the economies, a lot of

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  101. these big dividend companies had to slash

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  102. their dividends because they just weren't

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  103. making the same amounts of profits that

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  104. they usually make. Oil companies were in

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  105. big, big trouble because airlines stopped

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  106. flying and people stopped using their

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  107. cars. People basically cut down on the oil

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  108. consumption by like 66.6%.

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  109. And this is not good because the company

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  110. relies on making money to be able to pay

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  111. that money to its shareholders. And if

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  112. you've got, if you're relying on these

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  113. dividend companies to pay you your

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  114. dividends and then all of a sudden they

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  115. say, oh, we're sorry, we have to slash our

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  116. dividends by 50% this quarter, or we don't

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  117. have any dividends to give out this

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  118. quarter because we're losing so much money

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  119. and we just can't afford, we either have

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  120. to make the company go bankrupt and

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  121. destroy the company, or we have to not pay

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  122. the dividends so we can save money and

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  123. keep the company afloat. Also,

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  124. you might, you might realize that it's a

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  125. bit of a coincidence that some of the

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  126. companies that have the highest paying

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  127. dividends are also companies in industries

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  128. that don't seem to have a very long future

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  129. ahead of them. For example, oil companies.

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  130. When everyone's talking about clean energy

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  131. and electric vehicles and sustainable

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  132. energy and cutting back on oil, um,

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  133. having a lot of money invested in oil

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  134. companies doesn't really make me feel very

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  135. safe and secure. It starts making me think

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  136. Oh no, this company is not going to be

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  137. around in 10 or 20 years. This company is

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  138. not going to be making the same amount of

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  139. money in 10 or 20 years. How are they

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  140. going to carry on paying the dividends?

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  141. They're going to slash the dividends and

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  142. then I'll be making way less money from my

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  143. dividends. Best to sell now so I don't

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  144. lose my money. And then there's another

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  145. company called Altria. They sell

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  146. cigarettes and they have a really good

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  147. dividend. And you look at the future of

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  148. the cigarette industry Is there really

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  149. much of a huge industry when people are

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  150. becoming more and more health conscious?

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  151. They're turning to things like nicotine

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  152. gum and vaping, and smoking cigarettes and

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  153. cigars just seems like something an old

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  154. person does, you know, like someone who's

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  155. 40+ or 50+ sitting there in the armchair

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  156. puffing away at their cigars. Not really

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  157. something you associate with a young

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  158. person. I think in the future young people

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  159. are going to be less and less interested

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  160. in smoking cigarettes. And it just makes

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  161. me wonder about these tobacco companies—

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  162. how much longer are they going to be able

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  163. to pay out these really, really high

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  164. dividends without having to slash them to

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  165. save some money? Because they're going to

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  166. be making less money in the future, I'm

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  167. pretty sure. If I was a millionaire and I

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  168. had millions and millions, or maybe even

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  169. half a million, then yeah, maybe I would

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  170. put some of it into dividend stocks and

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  171. have a nice reliable amount of dividends

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  172. coming in. You know, there's, there's more

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  173. stable dividend stocks out there as well,

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  174. like Coca-Cola, or even Apple started

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  175. paying a dividend, but they don't really

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  176. pay much. But they're a much safer and

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  177. reliable company compared to oil

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  178. companies. So really, you have to think

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  179. about the future of the company. You could

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  180. get Coca-Cola or Pepsi or Johnson Johnson,

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  181. and they'll give you a moderate dividend,

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  182. but they have a much stabler future. But

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  183. then if you want more risk and higher

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  184. dividends, then you have to put up with

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  185. having a lot of money tied up in the oil

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  186. industry, which I personally don't really

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  187. feel that comfortable with investing huge

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  188. amounts of money into the oil industry

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  189. when everyone's excited about EVs and

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  190. solar energy and renewable energy.

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  191. So yeah, I've had a lot of money lying

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  192. around. I didn't really have any good

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  193. ideas for stocks to get. I'd probably put

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  194. a good amount of money into dividend

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  195. stocks just so I can get that reliable

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  196. quarterly dividend coming in for not

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  197. really doing anything. The thing is with

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  198. non-dividend stocks is you're constantly

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  199. checking up to see if the company's

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  200. growing or expanding or doing well,

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  201. because that's the only way you make

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  202. money. You only make money if the

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  203. company's doing well and the stock goes up

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  204. in value. You're not going to get any

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  205. money from dividends, but it's kind of a

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  206. different, different way of playing the

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  207. stock market, I guess. You've got

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  208. dividends And then you've got

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  209. non-dividends. It's kind of up to you

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  210. which way you want to play it. I guess

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  211. dividend plays are more like a steady and

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  212. stable way of doing it, kind of like the

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  213. tortoise and the hare race. Slow and

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  214. steady wins the race.

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  215. But for my personal situation, I don't

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  216. really have huge amounts of money to just

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  217. put into Coca-Cola so I can get $200 a

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  218. month. It's just not really worth it. I'd

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  219. be better off putting that money into

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  220. something that could grow short-term,

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  221. like Tattooed Chef or BNGO or NIO or some

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  222. up-and-coming starting company that has a

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  223. good potential to grow and expand in the

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  224. future. That's more what— that's what I'm

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  225. more interested in. I'm not really

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  226. interested in Coca-Cola or, you know,

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  227. boomer stocks, they call it stocks 50 or

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  228. 60-year-olds would put their money into.

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  229. Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Boeing,

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  230. American Airlines, stuff like that. It's

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  231. kind of boring to me.

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