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Racial Identity - Do I see myself as White or Asian

2017-01-18 · 11 min

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  1. Meow, meow, meow. If someone asked me, do

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  2. I feel more like a white person or an

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  3. Asian person, I would always respond with,

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  4. I feel more like an Asian person rather

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  5. than a white person. I feel more in touch

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  6. with the Asian side of myself. One of the

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  7. main reasons why when I was in my 20s—

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  8. well, I still am in my 20s— but from the

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  9. age of 20, one of the reasons why I kept

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  10. going to Japan and Asia was was because I

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  11. didn't feel like I fitted in here. I don't

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  12. see myself as a white person. I never felt

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  13. like I fitted in with all the other kids.

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  14. I always felt like I was on the outside

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  15. looking in. So this is one of the reasons

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  16. why I had this obsession with going to

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  17. Japan and to Asia and staying there for as

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  18. long as I could, because I felt like that

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  19. was where I belonged. That was where my

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  20. people were, but it wasn't the case.

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  21. I went over there and pretty much the same

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  22. thing happened over there that's happened

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  23. here. People would say things like, I look

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  24. so Western that I look really white. It

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  25. was— they were saying the same things that

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  26. people say here, but the opposite, if that

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  27. makes sense. Here, Western people will say

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  28. to me, you look so Asian, but Asian people

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  29. will say to me, You look so Western. It's

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  30. like, it doesn't matter where you go, you

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  31. don't look like what the native people

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  32. there look like. You always look like

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  33. you're different to everyone else, no

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  34. matter where you go. There doesn't— there

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  35. isn't a special country where the majority

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  36. of the population are mixed race. So for

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  37. mixed people, it doesn't matter where you

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  38. go, you're not really going to fully fit

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  39. in. To how you're not going to look like

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  40. everyone else. You're always going to look

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  41. slightly different because you're not

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  42. white or you're not Asian. You're a

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  43. mixture. You're half-half. I actually

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  44. found it kind of insulting when Asian

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  45. people would tell me, you look so Western,

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  46. even though they were saying it as a

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  47. compliment. Because in Asia, especially in

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  48. Japan, white people,

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  49. Western people, Caucasian people have a

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  50. lot of popularity. A lot of people want to

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  51. look Western. They think things like

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  52. having a high nose or having large eyes,

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  53. Western features, is a good thing, is a

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  54. positive thing. A lot of the girls, the

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  55. makeup is designed to make their eyes look

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  56. larger, make their skin look fairer. So to

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  57. them, it wasn't an insult, it was more of

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  58. a compliment. But for me, I felt like it

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  59. was kind of insulting. What do you mean I

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  60. look Western? I got bullied so much during

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  61. my childhood for not looking Western, and

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  62. now you're telling me that I look really

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  63. Western? I felt really strange about that.

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  64. In the UK, I feel like Asian features

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  65. aren't really desired. I feel like when—

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  66. one of the reasons why you would get

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  67. teased for looking Asian is because not

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  68. only just because you look different to

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  69. white people, it's because white people

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  70. don't really find I'm not saying all white

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  71. people, but a lot of white people don't

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  72. find Asian features desirable. Women don't

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  73. wear makeup to make themselves look Asian,

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  74. but in Asia, Asian women wear makeup so

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  75. that they look Western. So I used to take

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  76. a lot of offense when people would make

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  77. fun of how Asian people look like, or they

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  78. would make fun of me because I look Asian.

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  79. I would I started to take pride in the

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  80. fact that I looked Asian. I wanted to look

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  81. more Asian. I was a bit upset that I was

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  82. only half Asian. Sometimes when I was

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  83. younger, I actually wanted to be 100%

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  84. Asian. I think that feeling like you fit

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  85. in and having a sense of belonging is very

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  86. important for a human being, and this is a

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  87. problem that mixed-race people have

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  88. because because they always feel like they

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  89. never fit in anywhere. In their home

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  90. country, they look different to everyone

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  91. else, and they have a higher chance of

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  92. being bullied just because they look

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  93. different. And even if they go to a

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  94. different part of the world, for example

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  95. Asia, even then they don't fully feel

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  96. like they fit in because they may look

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  97. more like those people in those countries,

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  98. but they don't speak the same language or

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  99. They might have a different way of

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  100. thinking. They might have a westernized

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  101. personality or set of ideals. Even when I

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  102. was in Japan, I never really felt like I

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  103. fitted in, even though I could speak

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  104. pretty decent Japanese. I'm not Japanese.

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  105. I don't think like a Japanese person. My

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  106. personality is very different to Japanese

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  107. people. I don't like certain aspects of

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  108. the Japanese culture. I don't like their

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  109. work ethic and the way they devote their

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  110. lives to the company and the salaryman

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  111. lifestyle. And they even have things like—

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  112. they have a special word for people who

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  113. work too much and then die. I think that's

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  114. really sad. I feel like one of the reasons

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  115. why Japan has such a high suicide rate is

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  116. because the people aren't happy. The

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  117. people aren't happy with having to do

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  118. these soul-crushing jobs for all of their

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  119. lives and not have much to show for it.

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  120. And I didn't really feel like I wanted to

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  121. be a part of that. I'm a believer of

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  122. individuality and freedom and expressing

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  123. yourself and non-conforming, and I felt

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  124. like this way of thinking was very

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  125. different to how Japanese people think. I

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  126. feel like Japanese people are very

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  127. group-orientated, kind of like worker

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  128. ants, all working for the greater good of

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  129. the colony. I think that being unique and

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  130. having your own sense of identity is very

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  131. important. And I hate that Japanese

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  132. saying, the nail that sticks out gets

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  133. hammered down. What a load of crap! I

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  134. completely— I believe in the complete

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  135. opposite of that. You shouldn't hammer

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  136. down a nail if it sticks out. You should

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  137. pull it out and give it its own special

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  138. place. So although appearance-wise I might

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  139. fit in more in Japan, I didn't really feel

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  140. like my way of— my

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  141. values, my way of thinking really fitted

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  142. into Japanese society or culture.

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  143. And even if I could speak perfect

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  144. Japanese, I would still always be an

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  145. outsider because I'm a foreigner.

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  146. And sometimes it can get frustrating being

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  147. treated as a foreigner in your own

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  148. country. People would ask me things like,

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  149. where are you from? I know it's not an

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  150. insulting thing to ask, they're just

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  151. curious. But I always find it tricky to

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  152. ask— answer that question because I'm from

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  153. this country, and I know that's not the

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  154. answer they're looking for. They want to

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  155. know what my ethnicity is. And sometimes

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  156. people would talk to me slowly or in a

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  157. loud voice because they assume that I'm

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  158. not English and I don't speak English

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  159. well. Sometimes my mum would just randomly

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  160. say things like, Why does Daniel look so

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  161. Asian? How come his hair's so black? How

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  162. come he doesn't have facial hair? And to

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  163. tell the truth, I feel like this is a

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  164. compliment. I feel very happy when she

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  165. says that because there's this part of me

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  166. that enjoys looking Asian. But at the same

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  167. time, I also feel kind of irritated. I

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  168. feel like, are you disappointed that I

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  169. look Asian? Does the fact that I look more

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  170. Asian than Caucasian disappoints you.

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  171. Also, it can be kind of awkward when I'm

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  172. with my dad and my dad's introducing me to

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  173. someone. He's— and he says something like,

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  174. this is my son. I feel like it's kind of

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  175. strange because we look nothing alike. I

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  176. look nothing like my dad. The only

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  177. similarity would be our skinniness, and I

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  178. feel like I can imagine the other person

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  179. thinking Is— are they really son and

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  180. father? They don't look anything like each

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  181. other. I know a lot of people would say

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  182. none of this really matters. It doesn't

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  183. matter what you look like. Physical

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  184. appearances aren't important. It's who you

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  185. are on the inside. And I partially agree

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  186. with that. Maybe if we lived in a world

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  187. where everyone looked exactly the same,

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  188. then racism wouldn't exist. And I feel

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  189. like Me looking different to all

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  190. the other kids was one of the main reasons

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  191. why I was bullied. And because I was

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  192. bullied, I have lots of different problems

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  193. now, like low self-esteem, low confidence,

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  194. social anxiety. Sometimes I talk to my dad

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  195. about how I was bullied during school,

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  196. and he would be really surprised. He would

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  197. say things like, I had no idea you were

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  198. being bullied. I wish you had told me that

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  199. this was happening and I would have done

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  200. something about this. And I find that

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  201. really weird. Like, what could you have

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  202. done? What are you going to do, go into my

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  203. school and give a warning to all the, all

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  204. the kids who were bullying me? There's

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  205. nothing you could have done. Even if you

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  206. had moved me to a different school, the

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  207. same thing would have happened. I could

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  208. have gone to every school in the country

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  209. and the likelihood that I would have

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  210. gotten bullied would be pretty much the

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  211. same unless I went to some kind of

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  212. multiracial school, maybe a school in

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  213. London where it's common to have different

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  214. ethnicities of children in the school.

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  215. The school I went to was 99% white in the

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  216. countryside, so I was pretty much the only

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  217. Asian kid at school, and that was one of

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  218. the reasons why I got singled out But the

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  219. problem is, kids like me, we're small,

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  220. we're weird, we're quiet, we look weak,

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  221. and that is why we get bullied. It's just

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  222. natural. It's just what kids do. Kids

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  223. bully other kids, and I don't really feel

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  224. like there's much you can do to change

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  225. that. I get a bit worried sometimes. I

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  226. imagine if I had my own child and he or

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  227. she was getting bullied in school, what

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  228. would I do about that? I don't really know

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  229. what I could do about it apart from

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  230. talking to them and listening to their

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  231. problems and trying to understand them.

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  232. Maybe I would even take them out of school

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  233. and try and homeschool them because I

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  234. understand how that felt like, how that

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  235. feels, and I would feel sorry for them.

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